Author: intrigeri Date: To: Tails user experience & user interface design Subject: Re: [Tails-ux] Help needed: sandboxing the Tor Browser vs.
downloads and uploads directories
Hi,
spencerone@??? wrote (05 Feb 2015 02:42:27 GMT) : > On 02/04/2015 13:22, intrigeri wrote:
>> In case there was a misunderstanding, note that '(amnesia)' is _not_
>> part of the file name:
>>
>> * `~/Tor Browser files` (amnesiac)
>> * `~/Persistent/Tor Browser files` > 'Amnesia', although not explicitly labeled as a directory destination, and
> 'Persistent', are not very clear labels, and I am unsure of how effectively they
> translate into other languages.
Just to clarify, nobody will see "amnesia" written anywhere.
What users will see is "Tor Browser files", which is amnesiac since
it's Tails and it's not on the persistent volume.
Regarding "~/Persistent": we've had it called as such, as one of our
default persistence options forever. I guess we could rename it, but
it's another discussion IMO (as long as the current consensus of
reusing that directory for persistent Tor Browser downloads holds).
I see you're proposing "Remembered" and "Permanent" later.
Please start a new, dedicated thread about this topic :)
> And this is overlooking that amnesia, i.e., to
> forget, is not what is really happening, e.g., the files are being removed, i.e.,
> deleted, as I am sure there are traces of them in some form on the
> storage device.
What do you mean exactly? What's stored outside of the persistent
volume is *not* written to disk. Ever. If it is, then you've found
a pretty serious breakage of our design goals, and I'm very curious.
> However, with that said, we could say: > ~/Tor Browser files/Remembered
> ~/Tor Browser files/Forgotten
... this would require reintroducing a dedicated persistence option
for "~/Tor Browser files/Remembered", which sajolida and tchou
convinced me to drop.
I've already argued earlier in this thread why I believe it would be
very confusing to users if we start explicitly labeling anything as
"Forgotten", since it's the default in Tails.
This also applies to your other suggestions.
> Though 'files' might be redundant if the context of the experience establishes that
> these directory destinations are for storing files.
Interesting point. Building on top of the current state of things,
that would give:
* ~/Tor Browser/
* ~/Persistent/Tor Browser/
What do others think?
[There's still a little bit of time to change that. But not much.]
