Re: [Tails-dev] [Tails-project] boot tails iso with grub

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Ok,

no problem. I will consider ending this onboard tails.

i just thought that is was safe to boot a tails iso with grub's loopback
to ram. (tails is running in ram)

gd

Op 25/01/19 om 11:10 schreef intrigeri:
> Hi,
>
> linux-service:
>> I am no export, but using this now:
>> curl -s
>> "https://tails.boum.org/install/v2/Tails/amd64/stable/latest.json" | jq
>> . | awk -F'"' '{ for(i=1; i<=NF; i++) { if($i ~ /^http/) print $i } } '
>> but it is no pure jq
> I'm afraid we're running in circles :/ I'm sorry about that.
>
> First, I'll reiterate: I appreciate that you're trying to ship Tails
> on these computers. Thank you!
>
> Now, let's take a step back. This thread started with you essentially
> asking essentially "is it safe to ship this modified Tails and its
> home-made upgrade system?". So far the discussion has been:
>
> 1. answering "it could probably be made safe if you do this and that,
> but in the current state of things, it's not OK to call this Tails".
> But quite some bits of "this and that" are not implemented.
>
> 2. asking you more info that I need to answer your question
> meaningfully. Some of the first batch of questions I've asked in
> October have not been answered yet.
>
> Since installing and running Tails on an internal hard drive is not
> supported yet, safely ship something that can be called "Tails" on
> these computers requires non-trivial software development, UX design
> and tech writing work, and only so the basics are covered and users'
> expectations match what you're actually providing (not even aiming at
> providing a full-fledged Tails experience).
>
> I'll be honest with you: at this point of the process, I'm not
> confident at all that you'll manage to find/allocate the resources
> needed to do all this work.
>
> And I don't think it makes sense for Tails, as a project, to invest
> much in doing this work ourselves. I'd much rather see us work on
> making "installing and running Tails on an internal hard drive"
> a first-class citizen: it would benefit much more people. I don't
> expect this will happen shortly but it's good to know that it would
> address most of the issues identified in the course of
> this conversation.
>
> So I would like to ask you to reconsider whether you are in a position
> to get all the needed custom work done. And if not, it would be much
> better to stop shipping
> something-like-Tails-but-not-quite-but-that-still-pretends-to-be-Tails
> on the internal hard drive. The good news is that there are many
> other, much simpler & cheaper, ways to let your clients know about
> Tails and more general privacy issues, for example:
>
>   - include a flyer promoting Tails and/or Tails stickers in the box
>     when you ship a computer

>
>   - give the default browser a home page explaining that private
>     browsing mode / incognito tabs are not that incognito, and pointing
>     to our website

>
> - add a bookmark to our website in the default browser configuration
>
> … and I'm sure a quick collective brainstorming would find many more
> ideas :)
>
> Cheers,