Hi,
Do tails developers advise me to:
a) create a feature request at
https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/tails/issues/new for the inclusion of tracker[1] in Tails and continue the discussion there
b) keep discussing the general problem on this list instead of going for a tentative improvement (including tracker) even before there is positive feedback to go in this direction
Please forgive me if that's a newbie question, still learning the best way to communicate :-)
Cheers
[1]
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker
On 01/17/2018 12:20 AM, Loic Dachary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 01/17/2018 12:03 AM, DrWhax wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had some discussions with some of the people supporting the
>> journalists working on the Snowden archives and journalists using tools.
>>
>> Some of them are custom written and only do one job, take out all the
>> "speaker notes" for example in powerpoint presentations (don't ask).
>> Most of that stuff isn't packaged in Debian and they have to install it
>> themselves.
>>
>> The discussion we had maybe in the open or maybe in the backchannels
>> was, could we maintain some kind of "journalist pack" for persistence
>> where we package these tools somewhat and these things install when you
>> setup your persistence.
>
> With 3.4 the "Install additional software" is excellent for prototyping, indeed. It would be very useful to dig into these discussions and implement some ideas or package some of the code when possible. A journalist pack could start as a set of .deb listed in live-additional-software.conf while they are being pushed to Debian GNU/Linux.
>
>> We would also maintain some sort of deb repo for this. Maybe this could
>> even be a way to get some funding in from bigger organisations and a way
>> to support them in software! (crazy thought)
>>
>> I don't think we reached any conclusion or actionable points so thanks
>> for starting this discussion again and I hope my blurp is good for
>> something.
>
> I'm glad to hear about these past discussions and eager to learn more :-)
>
> Cheers
>
>>
>> Best,
>> Jurre
>
>
>>
>> Loic Dachary:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Journalist using SecureDrop decrypt and read documents in an airgap Tails. I wonder which tools are available to search the documents stored in their persistence. Maybe this topic was discussed somewhere already ? Looking for "search engine" and other similar words in readmine[1] points to numerous entries related to web search engines, reason why I may have missed something focused specifically on this problem.
>>>
>>> Ideally Tails would come with the best search tools there is for Debian GNU/Linux. But ... the footprint of these tools may be too much to impose on all Tails users since journalists are a minority. Even if we care very much about investigative journalists working on airgap machines, adding hundreds of mega bytes to the Tails ISO could have a negative impact for the majority of use cases.
>>>
>>> An alternative would be to add those tools in the persistence so they are installed on every reboot[2]. While this is a fine temporary solution or when the the packages are small, it significantly increases the boot time (because packages are re-installed on boot). And there is no documented upgrade path for these packages. It may be the case that this eventually improves as part of rethinking the installation and upgrade process[3] though.
>>>
>>> Any advice you may have, things I could do to move forward, would be most welcome :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> [1] https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/tails/issues
>>> [2] https://tails.boum.org/doc/advanced_topics/additional_software/index.en.html
>>> [3] Rethink the installation process and upgrade process https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/11679
>>>
>>
>
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