Re: [Tails-testers] latest alpha

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Author: intrigeri
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To: sajolida
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Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] latest alpha
Hi sajolida,

I'm not quite sure what to do about this report. To me it looks like
something that could be interesting for your UX research, but as-is
it's not actionable by developers like me.

WeThePeopleDecide:
> Hi,
> For example: the PRINT in the top right menu.
> Right-click on the Print icon provides either MOVE to tool bar or
> Remove from Tool bar. Not a Copy to toolbar. Am I missing something?


> I'm not that familiar with PT's but, just to get to the hotspot login page using TOR,
> which can be done using Tor browser in windows. But within Tails, the Unsafe Browser
> is required. Maybe a PT would handle that piece. I'm clueless on PT's.


> Regarding the Docs. True. What I'm suggesting is bnot to change anything, but add one
> file with all of it. One file that can be downloaded from the site or printing, or in
> the case inside of Tails (an incredible product by the way) add all the docs in one
> file as well, so someone can print it out, and read it without any device.
> The links within the docs, can be at the back in an indexed format, for refernce if needed.
> Or add that linked page just after the link.


> So, ProtonVPN (which uses OpenVpn) won't work in tails. ProtonVPN has TOR options as
> well. With that said, I was thinking it may work in regards to the Login access and
> not needing the Unsafe browser issue.
> Then we can kill the ProtonVPN after login, as Tails will connect to TOR.


> Note: Over the years I ran a tech business, and always brought interns from France
> here. Most were very good, a couple were fantastic, and one was so good and fast, it
> was bizzare.
> Now I'm getting older. (Bummer) I go back to the Radio Shacks TRS80 we called the
> TRASH 80. it came with 8k of memory. Right "k" not megs)... And to add 16 k, it cost
> $100 and had to be sent in. We also only had a casette tape, and a green screen.
> Much later came the larger floppy, then the smaller floppy, and so on.


> I haven't been involved at all due to an insane amount of Fraud, by an insane amount
> of people, such as attorney's, that oversight commission, judges, that oversight
> commission, states attorney, the appelate court, and the list is long, and has been
> meticulously documented, now nearing 7 years and going. Criminals don't like being
> documented. Especially tghe ones that are paid to protect the public. There is
> a Documentary mostly done (very long, made up of the actual slugs words in letters
> and legal documents. They are, and have been trapped in the documentation for years,
> so they keep going.
> Planning 2 law suits, which amounts being sued for will be so high it will no doubt
> get international attention. Millions would be chump change.One will include the
> State, the government itself, FBI, and others.
> I mention this only because I could care less about money, and never did. Just people.
> So my eye to help is firmly on organizations like Tails, Tor, Protonmail.


> I told people I know (in NSA) years before Snowden, there was no way possible they
> are not collecting every bit of data flying around. Not a chance in hell.
> They argued. Years later came Snowden. For me it was just obvious.


> Besides, I will bring up the largest issue ever raised, because this is how my brain
> has always operated, even since childhood. Whether it truns into anything, well are
> very slim. Because we are dealing with thugs. But raising it will be monumental.
> The issue?
> If I do something, like write a book, have an idea, or whatever "I" produce, belongs to me.
> Therefore, whatever I produce, which is everything I do is mine. I'm the creator of
> it, therefore, I'm the owner. If "my" movement takes me in front of a camera, it was
> me that created that. The camera is stealing my actions. My actions, like everything
> is simply "data". I own my own data, as do you. Without your actions, the data
> doesn't exist.
> Nobody can take it, steal it, use it or access it. It's not theirs to use.


> Crazy right? I agree. But one hell of a debate will ensure. :)


> Keep up the great work. The fact that all of this is needed, itself is beyond upsetting.


> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.


>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] latest alpha
>> Local Time: September 22, 2017 11:19 AM
>> UTC Time: September 22, 2017 11:19 AM
>> From: intrigeri@???
>> To: WeThePeopleDecide <WeThePeopleDecide@???>
>> tails-testers@???
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> WeThePeopleDecide:
>>> A couple of things, so the TOR Browser, maybe you can relay it to them and Firefox...
>>> This relates to TOR browser: The Open Menu offers options. You can move (for example)
>>> the Print to the toolbar. However it shoukl offer a COPY, so it also remains in the
>>> Menu as well.
>>
>> Wow, this goes a bit too deep into customization to be part of what
>> we"re actively supporting. Besides I don"t really get the advantage
>> compared to CTRL+c or right-click → Copy.
>>
>>> Maybe thinking of adding Plugable transports for getting online when
>>> dealing with an xfinity or Verizon hotspot. Currently, you must use
>>> the UnSafe Browser. Or am I missing something?
>>
>> Right, we include the Unsafe Browser precisely to deal with such
>> situations. I don"t understand your proposal: how exactly would
>> Pluggable Transports be used?
>>
>>> Documentation: Tails: The instructions for VPN says apt-get, however that does not
>>> work, and appears it"s just "apt". Even with the apt, it returns an error (Unable to
>>> locate package openvpn)
>>
>> Both apt and apt-get should work alike. apt is just a nicer frontend.
>> openvpn won"t work on Tails.
>> You need to `apt update" first before installing packages.
>>
>>> Doxumentation: Both Tails and TOR have the same issue. There needs
>>> to be a download for the entire manual. This way, it can be printed
>>> out, and read at leasure.
>>
>> We include a full copy of our documentation inside Tails itself.
>> Isn"t that good enough?
>>
>> Thanks for all this input!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> intrigeri


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