Re: [Tails-testers] latest alpha

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Hi,
For example: the PRINT in the top right menu.
Right-click on the Print icon provides either MOVE to tool bar or
Remove from Tool bar. Not a Copy to toolbar. Am I missing something?

I'm not that familiar with PT's but, just to get to the hotspot login page using TOR, which can be done using Tor browser in windows. But within Tails, the Unsafe Browser is required. Maybe a PT would handle that piece. I'm clueless on PT's.

Regarding the Docs. True. What I'm suggesting is bnot to change anything, but add one file with all of it. One file that can be downloaded from the site or printing, or in the case inside of Tails (an incredible product by the way) add all the docs in one file as well, so someone can print it out, and read it without any device.
The links within the docs, can be at the back in an indexed format, for refernce if needed.
Or add that linked page just after the link.

So, ProtonVPN (which uses OpenVpn) won't work in tails. ProtonVPN has TOR options as well. With that said, I was thinking it may work in regards to the Login access and not needing the Unsafe browser issue.
Then we can kill the ProtonVPN after login, as Tails will connect to TOR.

Note: Over the years I ran a tech business, and always brought interns from France here. Most were very good, a couple were fantastic, and one was so good and fast, it was bizzare.
Now I'm getting older. (Bummer) I go back to the Radio Shacks TRS80 we called the TRASH 80. it came with 8k of memory. Right "k" not megs)... And to add 16 k, it cost $100 and had to be sent in. We also only had a casette tape, and a green screen. Much later came the larger floppy, then the smaller floppy, and so on.

I haven't been involved at all due to an insane amount of Fraud, by an insane amount of people, such as attorney's, that oversight commission, judges, that oversight commission, states attorney, the appelate court, and the list is long, and has been meticulously documented, now nearing 7 years and going. Criminals don't like being documented. Especially tghe ones that are paid to protect the public. There is a Documentary mostly done (very long, made up of the actual slugs words in letters and legal documents. They are, and have been trapped in the documentation for years, so they keep going.
Planning 2 law suits, which amounts being sued for will be so high it will no doubt get international attention. Millions would be chump change.One will include the State, the government itself, FBI, and others.
I mention this only because I could care less about money, and never did. Just people.
So my eye to help is firmly on organizations like Tails, Tor, Protonmail.

I told people I know (in NSA) years before Snowden, there was no way possible they are not collecting every bit of data flying around. Not a chance in hell. They argued. Years later came Snowden. For me it was just obvious.

Besides, I will bring up the largest issue ever raised, because this is how my brain has always operated, even since childhood. Whether it truns into anything, well are very slim. Because we are dealing with thugs. But raising it will be monumental.
The issue?
If I do something, like write a book, have an idea, or whatever "I" produce, belongs to me.
Therefore, whatever I produce, which is everything I do is mine. I'm the creator of it, therefore, I'm the owner. If "my" movement takes me in front of a camera, it was me that created that. The camera is stealing my actions. My actions, like everything is simply "data". I own my own data, as do you. Without your actions, the data doesn't exist.
Nobody can take it, steal it, use it or access it. It's not theirs to use.

Crazy right? I agree. But one hell of a debate will ensure. :)

Keep up the great work. The fact that all of this is needed, itself is beyond upsetting.

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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] latest alpha
> Local Time: September 22, 2017 11:19 AM
> UTC Time: September 22, 2017 11:19 AM
> From: intrigeri@???
> To: WeThePeopleDecide <WeThePeopleDecide@???>
> tails-testers@???
>
> Hi,
>
> WeThePeopleDecide:
>> A couple of things, so the TOR Browser, maybe you can relay it to them and Firefox...
>> This relates to TOR browser: The Open Menu offers options. You can move (for example)
>> the Print to the toolbar. However it shoukl offer a COPY, so it also remains in the
>> Menu as well.
>
> Wow, this goes a bit too deep into customization to be part of what
> we"re actively supporting. Besides I don"t really get the advantage
> compared to CTRL+c or right-click → Copy.
>
>> Maybe thinking of adding Plugable transports for getting online when
>> dealing with an xfinity or Verizon hotspot. Currently, you must use
>> the UnSafe Browser. Or am I missing something?
>
> Right, we include the Unsafe Browser precisely to deal with such
> situations. I don"t understand your proposal: how exactly would
> Pluggable Transports be used?
>
>> Documentation: Tails: The instructions for VPN says apt-get, however that does not
>> work, and appears it"s just "apt". Even with the apt, it returns an error (Unable to
>> locate package openvpn)
>
> Both apt and apt-get should work alike. apt is just a nicer frontend.
> openvpn won"t work on Tails.
> You need to `apt update" first before installing packages.
>
>> Doxumentation: Both Tails and TOR have the same issue. There needs
>> to be a download for the entire manual. This way, it can be printed
>> out, and read at leasure.
>
> We include a full copy of our documentation inside Tails itself.
> Isn"t that good enough?
>
> Thanks for all this input!
>
> Cheers,
> --
> intrigeri