intrigeri:
>> I have also dubts about esiliati.org, I'm not sure that is more than a
>> person, I used some of their tools, but I used safely only the stateless
>> service.
>>
>> They have not explicit policy, not founding plan, not decision making,
>> not comunication channel with the users. for what I know... maybe
>> someone can say that I'm wrong... please.
>
>On the one hand, you know that project better than I do, so I'm
>inclined to trust your judgment (although I have difficulties
>balancing it with boyska's, so perhaps you 2 can sort it out? :)
well, I can't say that any of this is far from true. But is there any
requirement we have that esiliati.org is missing?
>> 1) https://www.systemli.org/en/service/xmpp/ -
>> https://jabber.systemli.org/
>> (https://compliance.conversations.im/server/jabber.systemli.org/)
>
>It was indeed the other candidate. Quoting details from the blueprint:
>
>- happy to host us
>- XMPP server will run another 2+ years but not forever.
>- They host a (beta as of today) Matrix server.
>- They can help us transition to Matrix when their XMPP server goes away.
I think what made the difference was commitment. Although no realistic
project is going to ever promise that any service will last _forever_,
esiliati.org gave us a commitment of working to keep it functional to
our needs as they care about XMPP a lot, and that XMPP is not easily
going away.
>Personally, I'm OK with migrating these 2 chat rooms to systemli.org.
I have no strong objections, too.
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boyska