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Autor: drebs
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A: Tails localization discussion, Transitails, ignifugo, u
Assumpte: Re: [Tails-l10n] Clarification on the merging of Weblate repo into cannonical Tails repo ::: WAS: [fr, de] Delta between Git and Weblate translations
You spotted exactly the 2 open questions we still have:

1. how/if voting is taken into account to accept translations.
2. what will be shown in the staging website.

As i said, please don't take whats currently in that doc as final. These
questions are still open.

I *think* the current situation is:

  - Weblate is currently configured so 2 votes accept a translation. But
    we want to change that soon otherwise as an attacker i just need to
    create 2 accounts to have a translation accepted. That change has
    not been implemented yet, and a reviewer role will have to be
    introduced to handle that properly. The current idea is to port
    Git-based translation trust to initially make a bunch of people
    reviewers, and then to use proof-of-work to increase the cost of
    attacks when making new people reviewers.


  - The staging website seems to be currently configured to show the
    oldest/first suggestion. It is not clear (to me) from a usability
    point of view exactly what is the best option, but currently i think
    showing the suggestion with most votes (and then the newest one if
    there are many with same number of votes) makes sense.


It'd be great to hear other opinions.

I would adivse to not start translating the doc i linked here yet, and
to not advertise it until these issues are not decided, the doc is
updated and reviewed. I was in doubt if i should've shared it initially
to avoid misunderstandings, but i also wanted to be nice to you. ;)

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Quoting ignifugo (2019-07-17 08:13:08)
> On 17/07/19 00:02, drebs wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Quoting ignifugo (2019-07-08 05:47:00)
> >> Hi.. I`m also interested in this... and in update the italian doc about
> >> weblate (our draft https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/l10n_Italian/#index3h1 )
> > The work on that doc is still ongoing as this discussion still have open
> > ends. At some point a reviewed version will be sent to this list.
> >
> > That said, if you waNT TO look at something that is uncertain,
> > unreviewed and can still change:     ;)

> >
> > https://0xacab.org/drebs/tails/blob/document-translation-platform/wiki/src/contribute/how/translate/with_translation_platform.mdwn
>
> yep, thanks a lot!
>
>
> It's a good reference also to understand as we are changing the
> mechanism of weblate.
>
> For example.. I do here 2 questions.. but if are offtopic.. please
> change you the subject of the email.
>
> From your Doc I understand that exist 2 ways to validate the translation:
>
> - vote mechanism
>
> - users with the role of reviewers
>
> And is not clear which is in use at the moment to validate a translation
> and have a commit.
>
> As team of translation in italian, we would like know if we (as l18n)
> changed from the first method to the second.. because in this case.. at
> the moment we have not users with review priviledge and from the web GUI
> there is not feedback about the commits. or if are both active.
>
> Also "staging".. show the suggestions.. so we can't know if are
> "validated or not"
>
> we would like not risk to stay in a not-sense situation..
>
> In which we translate but there is no way to publish ><
>
> So.. I'm super available to work on together or do a call about this topic.
>
> thanks hugs
>
> ignifugo
>
>
>