Re: [Lifeoutoffb] Linux Day, polizia postale e manifesti

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Szerző: Francesco Occhipinti
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Címzett: Reclamare indipendenza dall'oligarchia del web
Tárgy: Re: [Lifeoutoffb] Linux Day, polizia postale e manifesti
vabeh non so di che parli ma mi dispiace che ci sia posto per il
timore in un evento come il Linux Day!

2017-10-28 15:57 GMT+02:00 Cristiano Longo <cristianolongo@???>:
> Cmq alla fine è venuto per intimorirci, il tutore della "vera" libertà.
> E devo dire che con me ci è riuscito.
>
> CL
>
>
> On 27/10/2017 16:06, Francesco Occhipinti wrote:
>> vuoi dirmi che non ci sono più i parcheggiatori?
>>
>> 2017-10-26 20:11 GMT+02:00 Cristiano Longo <cristianolongo@???>:
>>>
>>> On 26/10/2017 18:50, Francesco Occhipinti wrote:
>>>> direi che in quanto siciliani il legalismo e` l'ultimo dei nostri problemi
>>> No in realtà sta diventando un problema serio nelle città e nei centri
>>> storici, anche grazie ad un uso arzillo del daspo urbano.
>>>
>>> CL
>>>
>>>> 2017-10-24 14:58 GMT+02:00 Cristiano Longo <cristianolongo@???>:
>>>>> Beh innanzitutto la propaganda legalista :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24/10/2017 14:45, Francesco Occhipinti wrote:
>>>>>> ma che tipo di propaganda ti aspetti? non è che siamo diventati un po'
>>>>>> paranoici?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-10-21 18:41 GMT+02:00 Cristiano Longo <cristianolongo@???>:
>>>>>>> Grazie Fluoro forse ho trovato una traduzione, ma non è specificata la
>>>>>>> licenza
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.intercom.publinet.it/2001/manifesto.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/10/2017 17:32, Fluoro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "nè è probabile che ne avremo uno"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> Da: "Reclamare indipendenza dall'oligarchia del web"
>>>>>>> <lifeoutoffb@???>
>>>>>>> To: "lifeoutoffb@???" <lifeoutoffb@???>
>>>>>>> Oggetto: Re: [Lifeoutoffb] Linux Day, polizia postale e manifesti
>>>>>>> Data: 21/10/17 16:50
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one"
>>>>>>> che diamine vuol dire "are we likely to have one"? "neppure vorremmo averne
>>>>>>> uno"?
>>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/10/2017 15:40, Cristiano Longo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A tal proposito, la cosa è resa più grave dal fatto che il pubblico sarà
>>>>>>> composto prevalentamente da giovanissimi che saranno esposti alla propaganda
>>>>>>> governativa.
>>>>>>> Visto che non ci sarà la possibilità di contrastarlo efficacemente, pensavo
>>>>>>> di distribuire una taduzione italiana del manifesto sull'indipendenza di
>>>>>>> internet, voi che ne pensate? Altre idee?
>>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/10/2017 14:49, Fluoro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Significa che l'idea originale di libertà di Linux viene "politicamente"
>>>>>>> inficiata dalla presenza di un organismo che, per sua natura e costruzione,
>>>>>>> tende a "controllare". Per carità, scoprono misfatti e assicurano alla
>>>>>>> giustizia i loro autori, ma in un mondo che tende al regime come quello di
>>>>>>> adesso, la presenza della Postale al Linux Day è come se significasse: "ok,
>>>>>>> noi siamo con voi, collaboriamo affinchè Linux offra un miglior controllo
>>>>>>> del traffico di rete". Ciò implica una diminuzione delle libertà digitali,
>>>>>>> cosa che questa mailing list invece propugna con forza (è la sua mission).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> Da: "Reclamare indipendenza dall'oligarchia del web"
>>>>>>> <lifeoutoffb@???>
>>>>>>> To: "Reclamare indipendenza dall'oligarchia del web"
>>>>>>> <lifeoutoffb@???>
>>>>>>> Oggetto: Re: [Lifeoutoffb] Linux Day - Cercasi Lettori di Manifesti
>>>>>>> Data: 19/10/17 15:22
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ma che significa, la polizia postale invalida l'evento?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-10-19 12:44 GMT+02:00 Cristiano Longo
>>>>>>> <cristianolongo@???>:
>>>>>>>> Niente ragazzi ho scoperto che ci sarà anche la Polizia Postale (in
>>>>>>>> veste ufficiale), per cui sentitevi liberi di non venire.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18/10/2017 19:17, Francesco Occhipinti wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ho letto l'hacker manifesto ... mi sembra un po' datato ed un po'
>>>>>>>>> arrogante ... istruttivo per me, non so se lo considererei istruttivo
>>>>>>>>> anche per le nuove generazioni ... ormai da tempo gli ultimi arrivati
>>>>>>>>> si credono i più furbi, è entrato nella cultura popolare, non è più
>>>>>>>>> una novità
>>>>>>>>> . il manifesto di autistici è molto più maturo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-18 18:46 GMT+02:00 Francesco Occhipinti <f.occhipinti@???>:
>>>>>>>>>> non sarò lì per leggere però grazie per i link interessanti! :P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-18 13:07 GMT+02:00 Cristiano Longo
>>>>>>>>>> <cristianolongo@???>:
>>>>>>>>>>> Ciao Amici,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> come sapete Sabato 28 Ottobre (mattina) festeggiamo il Linux Day ai
>>>>>>>>>>> Benedettini con vari workshop. Mi chiedevo se a qualcuno, magari con
>>>>>>>>>>> una
>>>>>>>>>>> preparazione un minimo attoriale, andasse di leggere qualche manifesto
>>>>>>>>>>> ad esempio
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Guerrilla Open Access Manifesto
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (http://www.doppiozero.com/materiali/web-analysis/guerrilla-open-access-manifesto)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace
>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence, da tradurre in Italiano)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Hacker Manifesto (https://gist.github.com/FiloSottile/3787073)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Manifesto di Autistici/Inventati
>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.autistici.org/who/manifesto, da tradurre in Italiano)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Manifesto GNU (https://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.it.html, solo un
>>>>>>>>>>> estratto)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Il pubblico sarà principalmente di ragazzi delle scuole superiori,
>>>>>>>>>>> fatemi sapere al più presto per favore. Se non trovo nessuno
>>>>>>>>>>> disponibile
>>>>>>>>>>> in caso lo faccio leggere direttamente a qualcuno del pubblico.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>>>>>>
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