[Tails-ux] clarification ~ P.S. Re: Improve Tails Installe…

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Autor: Thomas
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A: Tails user experience & user interface design
Assumptes vells: Re: [Tails-ux] Improve Tails Installer UX
Assumpte: [Tails-ux] clarification ~ P.S. Re: Improve Tails Installer UX
Oh, I missed... clarification: I had never used the upgrade from
ISO option on the TAILS installer!  (I used upgrade by cloning, what is 
the practical/functional difference, anyway?)     I just went to check 
just now if I had spoken ignorantly in my last e-mail    =)
    I would love to use the TAILS installer to install a downloaded ISO 
without it assuming I mean the TAILS ISO...   to give me an option of 
using a different ISO (that I might even have on the TAILS desktop, just 
downloaded onto the system running at the moment!)
AND, to instal onto a disk that does not already have TAILS on it...
     When I just now attempted to use TAILS installer, I noticed the 
options that I could /upgrade/ (not instal) from ISO, or instal by cloning.
Upgrade did allow me to choose a mint ISO, but told me "I might have 
better luck if" I put my ISO at root instead of on the desktop   uh..    
(AND, of course, that it could not work unless on an existing TAILS)
           Thanks again, and I'm trying to remember to gather all the 
info. before I post...
~ T



> I would love to be able to use TAILS installer with a downloaded ISO 
> image    =)
>     Then I could also use TAILS installer to install other versions of 
> linux, like trisquel...    the pre-downloaded ISO could be on a 
> different usb stick that is concurrently connected.
> {Wait, I've never tried to do so with an image that is downloaded 
> while mid-install..   is that even possible?   I think not or I would 
> have possibly noticed the option...   I think it is not a good idea 
> (in most (all?) cases) as this precludes verification of downloaded 
> ISO...     anyway, here is more on why I would love this function!!}

>
> I find that the TAILS usb stick creator makes live sticks I can run on
> both mac and most other machines, whereas many other installers seem
> to not do so (tho sometimes do so if I force underlying partition/format)
>
> I would also love to have the capacity to have a usb stick that has 
> multiple OS partitions...   especially, a TAILS, a Trisquel, and 
> possibly a mint, each with their own smallish persistence, and a 7th 
> partition being basic storage accessible by any of the OSs (or even by 
> plugging it in to a functioning box...
>     Why?    Well, I could then pare down to only 2 sticks, and I would 
> like that!!
> I like TAILS, but do not use it for everything...    I like open 
> source Trisquel, but it will not connect with internet on some 
> hardware, and I have a very large usb stick that could consolidate 
> almost everything ...    the second stick would be an emergency 
> "fix-it" stick, emergency vital-stuff-backup, and a second copy of 
> TAILS (that seems so necessary for upgrade of TAILS)..   oh, ya, the 
> upgrade process would have to limit it's actions when upgrading a 
> multi-OS stick...
>       THANKS for all that you people do !!!    =)
> Thomas

>
>> Susan:
>>> If I don't know which choice to make, how can I find out what "ISO"
>>> signifies?
>>>
>>> Would some linked decision-support information be available from
>>> this dialog?
>> Thanks for the fresh insight! People who have followed the installation
>> instructions already know what an ISO image.
>> For example: https://tails.boum.org/install/debian/usb/.
>>
>> But it might not be the case for everybody. For example, I gave Susan a
>> Tails USB stick which was already installed, she was not faced with this
>> terminology before but might still start Tails Installer to clone it for
>> a friend.
>>
>> What about adding a (?) button (like we're doing in other place) after
>> "Use ISO image"? This button would open a dialog explaining what is an
>> ISO image and linking to https://tails.boum.org/install/download/ for
>> download.
>>
>> I also thought about changing the label to "Use downloaded ISO image".
>>
>> What do you think Susan?