Re: [Tails-dev] gnu.org in "neutral" pool for htpdate

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Autor: intrigeri
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Asunto: Re: [Tails-dev] gnu.org in "neutral" pool for htpdate
Random User wrote (03 May 2016 10:59:18 GMT) :
> At
> https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/Time_syncing/ ,
> you characterize the web servers that are included in the"pal" pool as,
> "run by groups that are likely to take great care of their visitors'
> privacy."


> I would have surely thought that description would apply to a site such
> as, "www.gnu.org", from all that I know about the organization behind it
> (particularly the renowned Richard M. Stallman, who, whatever else one
> may think of him, would appear to be one of the most outspoken and
> uncompromising advocates of online privacy).


> I was therefore rather surprised to see "www.gnu.org" was not listed in
> the "pal" pool but in the "neutral" pool at
> https://git-tails.immerda.ch/tails/plain/config/chroot_local-includes/etc/default/htpdate.pools


> I wonder if you could explain your rationale for this. I hope you will
> not think that I am looking for a fight, as I am honestly just curious
> and sincerely interested in hearing what you have to say.


I have no clue what's the logging policy of the webserver behind
www.gnu.org. One would need to research that before we can move it to
the "pal" pool.

> P.S. I am also somewhat curious about the categorization of startpage
> and duckduckgo, as well, as only "neutral" and not "pals". Wasn't at
> least one of those two acknowledged for their dedication to user privacy
> by a third-party that is widely considered credible?


First, let's not put too much weight behind these "neutral" and "pals"
names. Regarding Startpage and DuckDuckGo: we have no means to verify
their claims, nor personal ties that allow us to trust them by
default. This does *not* mean that we have means to state they are not
trustworthy, or something. It's just that we can't tell.

Cheers,
--
intrigeri