Re: [Tails-ux] documentation installation guide MAC

Merel Koning:
>> sajolida:
>>> Merel Koning:
>>>> __ In step 2/7-7 The instruction is given without [sudo] in the
>>>> beginning. Sudo is later added in case permission is denied. I think
>>>> you can skip the step that commits [sudo] because Mac OS X users that
>>>> follow this guide step by step are usually not permanent sudo.
>>>>
>>>> So it would look like this:
>>>>
>>>> sudo dd if=[tails.iso] of=[device] bs=16m && sync
>>>>
>>>> You should get something like this:
>>>>
>>>> sudo dd if=/Users/me/tails-i386-1.3.iso of=/dev/rdisk9 bs=16m &&
>>>> sync
>>>>
>>>> Type in your password. Wait. The installation is complete once the
>>>> command prompt ($) reappeared.
>>>
>>> Ok. I'm all for simplifying and removing special cases when possible.
>>> Here I probably lack technical knowledge on how Mac OS X handles sudo.
>>> What do you mean by "usually not permanent sudo" exactly?
>>>
>>> We initially added the "sudo" as a troubleshooting method because we
>>> thought that:
>>>
>>> 1. People should not need "sudo" to write on a USB stick. Is it the case
>>> for you? What happened without sudo?
>>>
>>> 2. Using "sudo" opens more possibility to overwrite internal hard disks
>>> and cause serious damage. What would happen if you did `dd` on
>>> /dev/rdisk0 or whatever is the internal hard disk of the system? Do you
>>> think Mac OS X has safeguards against this?
>>>
>>> Given this:
>>>
>>> - If everybody needs sudo, then we should of course make this the first
>>> and only option.
>>> - If nobody needs sudo, then we should get rid of it all the way.
>>
>> ^ Ping?
>>
>> Given Spencer said that sudo can lead to overriding your internal hard
>> disk, I'd like to be super careful here so I won't change anything
>> unless there are clear benefits without extra risks.
>
> Pong. Will look at it this weekend at the Logan symposium.

Sure, no problem.

> Thank for the answer!! U there?

I won't be there myself but there will be other people from Tails to
talk to (at least 5 of us I think!)