Re: [Tails-ux] documentation installation guide MAC

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Author: sajolida
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To: Tails user experience & user interface design, merel
Subject: Re: [Tails-ux] documentation installation guide MAC
sajolida:
> Merel Koning:
>> Hello Tailless,
>>
>> Suggestions for improvements:
>>
>> __ In step 1/7 The two option are not clear because the firefox
>> Add-on has a much bigger button than the Download via bit torrent
>> option. So I got confused about the options. Perhaps both in a button
>> or describing the option in the manual would help.
>
> You're right. We have a different layout for people not on Firefox and
> without Javascript. See the screenshot in attachment. But indeed, people
> on Firefox could be presented with the BitTorrent option in equal
> weight. Would this solve your concern?


Tracked in #11209 now.

>> __ In step 2/7-7 The instruction is given without [sudo] in the
>> beginning. Sudo is later added in case permission is denied. I think
>> you can skip the step that commits [sudo] because Mac OS X users that
>> follow this guide step by step are usually not permanent sudo.
>>
>> So it would look like this:
>>
>> sudo dd if=[tails.iso] of=[device] bs=16m && sync
>>
>> You should get something like this:
>>
>> sudo dd if=/Users/me/tails-i386-1.3.iso of=/dev/rdisk9 bs=16m &&
>> sync
>>
>> Type in your password. Wait. The installation is complete once the
>> command prompt ($) reappeared.
>
> Ok. I'm all for simplifying and removing special cases when possible.
> Here I probably lack technical knowledge on how Mac OS X handles sudo.
> What do you mean by "usually not permanent sudo" exactly?
>
> We initially added the "sudo" as a troubleshooting method because we
> thought that:
>
> 1. People should not need "sudo" to write on a USB stick. Is it the case
> for you? What happened without sudo?
>
> 2. Using "sudo" opens more possibility to overwrite internal hard disks
> and cause serious damage. What would happen if you did `dd` on
> /dev/rdisk0 or whatever is the internal hard disk of the system? Do you
> think Mac OS X has safeguards against this?
>
> Given this:
>
> - If everybody needs sudo, then we should of course make this the first
> and only option.
> - If nobody needs sudo, then we should get rid of it all the way.


^ Ping?

Given Spencer said that sudo can lead to overriding your internal hard
disk, I'd like to be super careful here so I won't change anything
unless there are clear benefits without extra risks.