Re: [Tails-testers] Call for testing new tools and instructi…

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Aihe: Re: [Tails-testers] Call for testing new tools and instructions to get started with Tails
Jannis Wiese:
> Hi guys,
>
> awesome, well done!


Thanks!

>> On 23.12.2015, at 16:07, sajolida <sajolida@???> wrote:
>>
>> We are aware that the process of getting started with Tails
>> (downloading, verifying, installing, starting, and configuring) might be
>> the main stumbling block for its wider adoption.
>>
>> Over 2015, we have worked very hard to make this process easier and
>> today we are happy to release a first beta version of the new process.
>>
>> We worked on:
>>
>> 1. A Firefox add-on to automate the verification of the ISO image,
>> written by Giorgio Maone, the author of NoScript.
>
> Works like a charm in Firefox 42.0 on Mac OS X 10.11.2!


Nice! So far we got no bad feedback for the extension!

>> 2. The inclusion of Tails Installer directly in Ubuntu (and Debian
>> really soon), to avoid burning a DVD, using two USB sticks, or going
>> through the command line.
>>
>> 3. New instructions on the website to present the process
>> step-by-step, according to your operating systems, skills, and
>> available hardware.
>
> Very nice! A few layout problems (the green underlines are a bit high and the Tails title bar is not shown entirely), but most of the rest is very smooth.


Both of these are, I think, deliberate aesthetic choices from tchou.
I personally don't like them very much either but I also don't have
real functional arguments against it. Still, several people already
mentioned them as weird to their taste.

> Following the process, I found two issues:
> - Using an unsupported browser first (Safari), I ended up at the download of the image. If the URL I’m supposed to copy in Firefox or Tor Browser would lead me back to that site, I imagine the process to be a bit smoother (for download and especially verification).


Oops, I think that's clearly a bug in our code. The plan was to have
this link point to the same page (and not
"https://tails.boum.org/download/" as it is now). I created
https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/10848 to trac this. Thanks for
spotting it!

> - The part “&& sync” does not work on Mac OS X (at least not for me), so maybe you should delete that.


What happens exactly with '&& sync'? and without it?

For the record, it's the same command line that we've had on the manual
Mac instructions for years [1]. So I'm interested to see if this is only
problematic on some versions of Mac OS X and also whether removing it
would work for everybody. Because of course, if we can do without it, we
should remove it.

[1]: https://tails.boum.org/doc/first_steps/installation/manual/mac/

>> [...]
>
> Again, an awesome job, thanks!


Thanks for the nice words!