Re: [Tails-dev] How to replace the green onion [was: What do…

Hi,

sajolida <sajolida@???> wrote:

> intrigeri:
> > Alan wrote (06 Mar 2015 21:12:43 GMT) :
> >> sajolida <sajolida@???> wrote:
> >>> I hereby propose to have the list of circuits accessible directly from
> >>> the green onion as it is the case now in Vidalia. But I'm not sure how
> >>> this fits with your architectural plans and related security implications.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what sajolida meant with "directly" in this
> > sentence. If that's "clicking the onion icon directly starts Tor
> > Monitor", or "clicking the onion icon opens a menu that proposes to
> > start Tor Monitor", then I agree.
>
> By "directly" I mostly wanted to express a general idea, not a precise
> implementation. I want the list of circuits to be available by clicking
> (somehow) on the green onion and not having to go through menus. That
> could be, from quickest to manipulate to the longest:
>
> 1. Clicking on the green onion opens a popup (like for Florence) with
> the list of circuits. That would be the most integrated solution but
> depends on the information in that popup to be dense enough. On your
> current screenshot for example, I'm not sure we should keep built but
> unused circuits. We might only list currently used circuits. I'm not
> sure either whether the detail of the relay need to be that complete.

I don't want to implement that. It's NOT easy at all to do for at
least two reasons:

- there is no JS or GIR to talk to Tor, but we can only use these
languages easily from an extension;
- we don't want the amnesia user to talk to Tor, but the extension runs
under the Shell user. That thus means exposing just the right
information through some safe IPC mechanism.

So I's say: "no".

> 2. Clicking on the green onion opens Tor Monitor is a window.
>
That's easy to implement, but I know no other extension that launches
an application or display a window directly when clicking on it, so I'm
afraid it would be confusing.

> 3. Clicking on the green onion opens a menu, and clicking on an item
> from that menu open Tor Monitor in a window. That's your solution if I
> understand correctly.

Right.

> But I'm not sure to understand what the menu
> brings, as "Tor is ready" is already the message provide by the onion
> being green.
>
Right. So it only brings consistence with other extensions.

[...]

> Regarding the onion being monochrome to fit better in GNOME. Why not.
> That's interesting too but needs to be put in perspective with #7437.
> But I guess that changing the icon at some point in the future should be
> easy.
>
Right.

Cheers