Alan:
> sajolida <sajolida@???> wrote:
>
>> I was wondering whether we should use a shorter title. We use a big
>> font for titles (that could be fixed) but I'd like to see if we can
>> avoid wrapping titles. That's why I did a731b9f. Feel free to revert
>> it if you don't like it as I'm not 100% convinced either.
>>
> A shorter title looks fine indeed, but I'm a bit concerned about
> loosing the "call" or "help" idea. What about "Help porting Windows
> camouflage to GNOME 3.14"?
Done in 543f5a8. It fits on one line in a standalone page but it will
probably wrap when inlined in the news feed. But let's not spend more
time on this.
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>>>
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>>
>> I'm a bit concerned about what will happen once we sent out the call.
>> Hopefully we will have between 5 and 10 answers from random people who
>> will write to the list saying "hello, I'm interested in this". What
>> are you going to answer them?
>>
> Thanks for pointing this out. My rought idea: if they have questions,
> answer them, else, tell them to DL and start tails/jessie and hack, and
> see what they produce. If there are several motivated answers then I
> think it's possible to split the work (e.g. icons/gtk/shell). I guess
> more than half of the people won't produce anything, but if someone has
> a convincing theme that would be a good start. I hope we would then
> do the integration and polishing together but I'm not that confident on
> that part.
Let's try this. Then I also think that it is important to request them
to send regular updates on their progress. Because if we have 5-10
answers and they all start exploring the basics in parallel, then it's
important to be able to identify quickly who is really capable and
dedicated to do the work, so we can maybe assign them complementary
tasks instead of having them duplicate the same work in parallel. In
GSOC they ask for weekly reports, right? Maybe that's a bit too much but
every two weeks sounds good, no?
>> Because if we're interested in their past experience on GNOME before
>> we spend time mentoring them, then we might as well ask this upfront.
>>
> I thought that the first sentences made quite clear that we'd like some
> experience in theming of GTK/GNOME. But I'd rather not set some strict
> requirement as somebody motivated enough can do a good job even if they
> have no passed GNOME experience I think. e.g. perhaps experience in web
> development with JS and CSS forks perfectly.
That makes sense.
>> You also silently ignored my concern about money. If giving out money
>> can help us recruiting more qualified people and do less filtering and
>> mentoring, them I'm all for it. But then I'm not sure whether you like
>> the idea of being mentoring someone else who is being paid and I'm not
>> sure how to put it in the announcement in the first place so I'm ok to
>> try without mentioning money at all first.
>>
> I'm not interested in dealing with this money issue, but I'm not
> against it if you or someone else wants to take care of it.
Good to know.
> However, I
> think that we should not promise anything before being sure there is
> real good work behind. So if you think we could have money for this and
> want to take care of it, I'd propose not to mention it on the 1st
> place, but:
>
> - if someone asks, answer than that we can give them money;
> - additionally, if someone comes up with a convincing POC, propose them
> money to work on the shitty details fixing;
> - make very clear the requirements before money arrives: if we pay
> somebody who only does the funny parts and then let me do the shitty
> fixing, I'd feel tricked.
That makes perfect sense as well. I like your idea of not mentioning
money at the beginning (unless they ask) and propose it to complete the
last mile, shitty details, etc. once we found the good people to do it.
So feel free to merge news/windows_camouflage_jessie into master
whenever you want. Then I'll do a bit of Twitter.
--
sajolida
