Hi intrigeri
BTW, I Don't know how can i selectively quote you like you do in your
mails :(
Regarding the firefox issues, I will for sure test the new version. When
my brother launched tails for me and we did find out that we have a
successful connection to Tor, we were excited so my feedback was a bit
rushed.
I also think that he used the obfs3 feature, I need to ask him once
more what he did on the start. the scramblesuit test on tor was done by
myself on windows.
Regarding Thunderbird, I believe that it's generally an Orca issue that
is not fixed on Debian Wheezy and it is fixed on Debian Jessie, in
orca 3.14. not in tails I guess. I'll have to send a mail to debian
accessibility mailingList to see if this problem is on my end or not.
From what i got from your mails, Both tails v1.2 and tails unstable
(based on next Debian version) do not have a HotKey for launching Orca
on the greeter.
What do you think, Should i download both of them, and with a help of a
sighted person launch Orca and test both of them?
If i get the time this weak, I will try to do this and write a
not-rushed feedback.
Thanks!
Hadi
On 11/2/2014 12:57 AM, intrigeri wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [no need to Cc me, I read the list.]
>
> First, thanks a lot for this feedback! Much appreciated :)
>
> Hadi Rezaee wrote (15 Oct 2014 18:15:03 GMT) :
>> Regarding Orca issues.
>> There's a slight problem with Orca getting stuck on firefox while navigating with
>> the keyboard to read the sites. you need to alt+tab out of firefox, and get in, to
>> fix it. It's not a very chritical issue, but it's a very
>> annoying one.
> Can you still reproduce this bug with Tails 1.2?
>
> Bonus points if you try to reproduce this on current Debian stable
> (Wheezy): then, we could report this bug to Debian, and hopefully see
> it fixed there instead of having to "wait" for Tails based on
> Debian Jessie.
>
>> Also, general navigation is broken a bit, so you cannot interact with forms with old
>> Orca and newer firefox, Orca loses the focus and drops you at the
>> first of the page.
> Same question. It might be that Firefox 31 improved the situation.
>
>> In Thunderbird, Orca's focus jumps around and when i read the subjects, Orca
>> randomly mutes the speech in the middle of speaking.
> We don't ship Thunderbird yet (https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/5663).
> Does this happen to you in Tails?
>
>> Regarding features, There's some new focus mode features for browsing, that makes it
>> easier to interact with forms and buttons. There's also a new feature that turns off
>> the virtual layout view off, allowing users to brows sites line by line with Orca.
> Good to know. That'll have to wait for Debian Jessie, unfortunately.
>
>> I just saw your link regarding Debian Jessie. I think there are many good
>> improvements on next Debian Jessie, and the accessibility team is putting a very
>> great amount of energy on that.
> :)
>
>> How's the state of tails unstable with Debian Jessie. Can i test
>> it out?
> The basics work fine, but many things are known to be broken:
> https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/tails/roadmap#Tails_4.0
>
> We haven't run any Tails/Jessie ISO through our QA process yet, so we
> can't guarantee that it meets our security and anonymity requiements.
>
> But it's exactly the right time to test accessibility support in
> there, because it will soon be too late to get bugfixes into
> Debian Jessie.
>
>> Is there a way for me to launch Orca at the greeter window, if the
>> testing version has one?
> Unfortunately, we haven't worked on our ticket #7500 (that you
> commented on two weeks ago) for our Jessie-based version either :(
>
> Any taker?
>
> Cheers,
