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Autor: intrigeri
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Para: Hadi Rezaee
CC: The Tails public development discussion list
Assunto: Re: [Tails-dev] State of TAILS accessibility with Orca; Tor totally works within Iran using Pluggable transports (ScrambleSuit)
Hi,

[no need to Cc me, I read the list.]

First, thanks a lot for this feedback! Much appreciated :)

Hadi Rezaee wrote (15 Oct 2014 18:15:03 GMT) :
> Regarding Orca issues.


> There's a slight problem with Orca getting stuck on firefox while navigating with
> the keyboard to read the sites. you need to alt+tab out of firefox, and get in, to
> fix it. It's not a very chritical issue, but it's a very
> annoying one.


Can you still reproduce this bug with Tails 1.2?

Bonus points if you try to reproduce this on current Debian stable
(Wheezy): then, we could report this bug to Debian, and hopefully see
it fixed there instead of having to "wait" for Tails based on
Debian Jessie.

> Also, general navigation is broken a bit, so you cannot interact with forms with old
> Orca and newer firefox, Orca loses the focus and drops you at the
> first of the page.


Same question. It might be that Firefox 31 improved the situation.

> In Thunderbird, Orca's focus jumps around and when i read the subjects, Orca
> randomly mutes the speech in the middle of speaking.


We don't ship Thunderbird yet (https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/5663).
Does this happen to you in Tails?

> Regarding features, There's some new focus mode features for browsing, that makes it
> easier to interact with forms and buttons. There's also a new feature that turns off
> the virtual layout view off, allowing users to brows sites line by line with Orca.


Good to know. That'll have to wait for Debian Jessie, unfortunately.

> I just saw your link regarding Debian Jessie. I think there are many good
> improvements on next Debian Jessie, and the accessibility team is putting a very
> great amount of energy on that.


:)

> How's the state of tails unstable with Debian Jessie. Can i test
> it out?


The basics work fine, but many things are known to be broken:
https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/tails/roadmap#Tails_4.0

We haven't run any Tails/Jessie ISO through our QA process yet, so we
can't guarantee that it meets our security and anonymity requiements.

But it's exactly the right time to test accessibility support in
there, because it will soon be too late to get bugfixes into
Debian Jessie.

> Is there a way for me to launch Orca at the greeter window, if the
> testing version has one?


Unfortunately, we haven't worked on our ticket #7500 (that you
commented on two weeks ago) for our Jessie-based version either :(

Any taker?

Cheers,
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intrigeri