Alan wrote:
> We could have only one list with languages and consider that changing
> the specific keyboard layout and locale is somehow an advanced option.
> I'm not convinced it's better but that could be an option.
If I understand your proposal correctly, the idea here would be to have
only the language on the first screen and then automatically select a
keyboard depending on this. For example, if I select German as language
it will automatically configure German keyboard.
Personally, I would start by removing the locale list and leave the
keyboard like this. The use of this one is definitely quite more obscure
that "language" and "keyboard".
And also, since the keyboard is used to typed in the persistence
passphrase, I think it should be possible to change it from the first
screen (maybe using another popup widget or something). I don't know how
to type my passphrase on other keyboard layouts!
But maybe I'm insisting on having the keyboard on the first screen only
because I use this myself every day.
Can we try to brainstorm a bit and maybe find important groups of users
for which selecting the language won't give them a valuable keyboard
layout by default? Maybe French speaker in Canada? Do they use the
French keyboard?
>> http://git.tails.boum.org/tails/plain/wiki/src/blueprint/greeter_revamp_UI/greeter-1st-screen-persistence-1.png?h=web/layered-persistence-config
>>
>> http://git.tails.boum.org/tails/plain/wiki/src/blueprint/greeter_revamp_UI/greeter-1st-screen-persistence-2.png?h=web/layered-persistence-config
>
> With the original proposal I imagined that typing something in the
> password box would automatically move the slider to enable
> persistence.
I like this idea as well. It would fix the problem that I raised in my
previous answer to tchou about having a visual feedback on whether
persistence is enabled or not.
> These new mockups implies that to enable persistence one
> has first to click on the slider (or focus it with the keyboard) then
> type the password. I'm not totally convinced *but* if there is an
> agreement it's easier for new users I find it an acceptable compromise
Nah, I think that we should drop this idea and try to simplify other
things on that screen like the localization options.
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sajolida
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