intrigeri:
> Hi,
>
> carol3@??? wrote (14 Mar 2014 18:04:17 GMT) :
>>> You probbly mean pseudonymous, then, not anonymous, right?
>
>> no i mean anonymous, by creating new random account on every call (in
>> this case we have to trust ostel.co - guardian project).
>
> Wow, interesting. Two questions, then:
>
> 1. Do you think ostel.co can handle it?
> 2. How do you handle incoming calls, then? One has to communicate
> their temporary SIP address to their peer every time they want to
> receive a call, or is the idea to make this easier somehow?
i don´t test it to date (it was only a idea to discuss). if it´s not
working over tor it may run pseudonymous over zrtp. and you´re right ...
probably tor is to slow for the needed bandwidth
>
>> perhaps i have a error in reasoning. why you need vpn for it? for e.g.
>> with linphone you can tunnel the traffic over tcp
>
> I didn't think that NAT traversal worked fine when using Tor, but
> I would be glad to be surprised. Can a Tails system receive a call
> over Tor (say, with Linphone, and via ostel.co)? I'd be delighted to
> read a quick howto to see this work :)
>
>>> Do you think Linphone is a better bet for Tails than Jitsi?
>>> If so, I'd be delighted to learn why :)
>
>> jitsi is not working without udp.
>
> A quick web search seems to disagree, so I'm surprised. I didn't look
> at the source code, though.
https://jitsi.org/Documentation/FAQ
... Also note that both you and your partner need to have unhindered
outgoing UDP access to the Internet or at least to your VoIP service
provider ...
linphone can communicate via sip/tcp
>
>> and: i think zrtp is better supported by linphone
>
> Care to elaborate what "better supported" means, so that I can add
> more specific information to our blueprint?
>
>>>> What do you think about the implicit influence interference of
>>>> projects by google (also with GSoC)? For example the google partnership
>>>> with mozilla has the result that firefox phone depends more and more on
>>>> parts of android.
>>>
>>> The influence on... what exactly? :)
>
>> i don´t know gsoc ... but normally google don´t give anything without
>> taking influence on it
>
> I'm note sure "influence" is the most efficient way to think of this
> all, as I'm not sure taking direct influence is required to make the
> entire thing useful for one's interests. E.g. giving out money without
> apparent reciprocity is sometimes enough to be seen as Good Guys™,
> which itself can bring quite some advantages on the long-term.
>
>>> Last time I checked, we did not ship the bluez stack. Knowing this,
>>> does the problem you're evoking here apply to Tails? E.g. is this
>>> identifying info broadcasted in current Tails?
>
>> current tails: yes i think so. but i don´t have bluetooth - so i can´t
>> test it (wireshark).
>
> Hopefully someone else can test this, and confirm your intuition.
> If you would be kind enough to share the information that your
> intuition is based upon, it would be helpful.
>
> Regards,
>
