>From what i've seen, Occupiers don't even necessarily want jobs, or fit
into a system where they are paid as wage-slaves to perpetuate a fascist
state. They are not just "against" the 1%, they are against a system in
which there exists a 1%. They are struggling for a classless society, and
while many are anti-capitalist to begin with, this is more than just about
"jobs"--this is about meaningful work that doesn't destroy the planet or
subvert human rights...and most would be happy with a 2 hour work week if
it meant their quality of life would be better.
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> Eric and Gus,
> The line pushed by this senate candidate is nothing new. It is the
> standard defense from the right against the critique of wealth
> disparity and class society. Occupy's success is based on its refusal
> to play by the rules set by figures such as this senate candidate.
> The movement's refusal to issue demands is what gave it its power,
> and prevented it from being placed in a certain box. I don't think
> the point is to say "Occupy really isn't anarchist" or "Occupy
> participants really want jobs." I think Occupy breaks with that logic
> and makes it something interesting for broad sections of the
> population. Just my two cents.
> -Rob
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> > But let us not forget and become defensive about this. We are often
> > described as anarchists or communists or criminals, vagabonds,
> > disaffected
> > college kids ... whatever. And some number of us will answer to one
> > or more
> > of those labels, especially without probing what the label means (eg.
> > anarchist). Who cares?
> >
> > The key is not who we are but the political point being made. We
> > don't want
> > a "hand out" or a "free ride."
> >
> > Occupiers want jobs, not hand-outs. Many actually have them.
> >
> > Occupiers want the rich to pay their fair share. Big corporations
> > that use
> > our roads, schools and courts are the free riders!
> >
> > What happened to "self-reliance in America?" It came to the park to
> > defend
> > the American Dream, in the face of police threats.
> >
> > "Re-build the infrastructure," I often say. "Put people work doing
> > it. Need
> > money? Go where the money is." -- Is that an anarchist in search of a
> > hand-out?
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:34 PM, <jake@???> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Occupy Research folks,
> >>
> >> There is a US senate candidate in WI whose new ad is saying
> >> "OWS is largely a group of self-described anarchists who want a
> >> hand out
> >> in the form of high paying jobs regardless of merit. What ever
> >> happened to
> >> self reliance in America"
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0VTPksbxgE
> >>
> >> He also says ows is like Wall Street itself because they "simply
> >> want a
> >> free ride" off the taxpayer.
> >>
> >> I'd like use OR data to debunk this claim. I know preliminary
> >> results of
> >> surveying suggested only a tiny fraction of survey respondents
> >> self-described using a form of the word anarchism, but I was
> >> hoping on more
> >> finalized data and will be contacting the campaign directly.
> >> Thanks in
> >> advance,
> >>
> >> Gus Wynn, Editor
> >> Opednews.com <http://www.opednews.com/amerigus>
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