Re: [Occupyresearch] Occupyresearch Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4

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Auteur: robert.augman
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Sujet: Re: [Occupyresearch] Occupyresearch Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4
Eric and Gus,
The line pushed by this senate candidate is nothing new. It is the
standard defense from the right against the critique of wealth
disparity and class society. Occupy's success is based on its refusal
to play by the rules set by figures such as this senate candidate.
The movement's refusal to issue demands is what gave it its power,
and prevented it from being placed in a certain box. I don't think
the point is to say "Occupy really isn't anarchist" or "Occupy
participants really want jobs." I think Occupy breaks with that logic
and makes it something interesting for broad sections of the
population. Just my two cents.
-Rob

On Apr 14, 2012, at 2:00 PM, occupyresearch-request@??? wrote:

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> But let us not forget and become defensive about this. We are often
> described as anarchists or communists or criminals, vagabonds,
> disaffected
> college kids ... whatever. And some number of us will answer to one
> or more
> of those labels, especially without probing what the label means (eg.
> anarchist). Who cares?
>
> The key is not who we are but the political point being made. We
> don't want
> a "hand out" or a "free ride."
>
> Occupiers want jobs, not hand-outs. Many actually have them.
>
> Occupiers want the rich to pay their fair share. Big corporations
> that use
> our roads, schools and courts are the free riders!
>
> What happened to "self-reliance in America?" It came to the park to
> defend
> the American Dream, in the face of police threats.
>
> "Re-build the infrastructure," I often say. "Put people work doing
> it. Need
> money? Go where the money is." -- Is that an anarchist in search of a
> hand-out?
>
> Have a nice day.
> Eric
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> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:34 PM, <jake@???> wrote:
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>> Hi Occupy Research folks,
>>
>> There is a US senate candidate in WI whose new ad is saying
>> "OWS is largely a group of self-described anarchists who want a
>> hand out
>> in the form of high paying jobs regardless of merit. What ever
>> happened to
>> self reliance in America"
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0VTPksbxgE
>>
>> He also says ows is like Wall Street itself because they "simply
>> want a
>> free ride" off the taxpayer.
>>
>> I'd like use OR data to debunk this claim. I know preliminary
>> results of
>> surveying suggested only a tiny fraction of survey respondents
>> self-described using a form of the word anarchism, but I was
>> hoping on more
>> finalized data and will be contacting the campaign directly.
>> Thanks in
>> advance,
>>
>> Gus Wynn, Editor
>> Opednews.com <http://www.opednews.com/amerigus>
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