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Subject: strage di ustica: 2 cables in inglese pubblicati da wikileaks
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:41:43 +0200








Il secondo cable in inglese ci dice che Gli Usa erano impegnati ad aiutare Giovanardi con (
certamente un depistaggio) la tesi della bomba x Ustica,
era in difficoltà Giovanardi dopo che si era scoperto
che il governo americano aveva intercettato le telefonate tra Amato e Salvo Andò su Ustica.
Il governo americano cercava di aiutare Giovanardi contro quello che il governo Usa
definiva il complottismo dei giornali e dell'opposizione italiani dell'epoca
relativo ad un coinvolgimento del governo americano nella strage di Ustica.
Dopo che si erano scoperte infatti quelle intercettazioni Giovanardi si era lamentato che così lo screditavano,
impegnato com'era ad accreditare la tesi (depistaggio) della bomba
ed a escludere ogni coinvolgimento del governo americano nella strage di Ustica.
Ancora una volta per la sottoscritta sono confermate quelle parole di Mario Ciancarella nella lettera
a Rognoni pubblicate dal Tirreno su richiesta di Sandro Marcucci 5 giorni prima di essere ammazzato
(è sul nostro archivio su scribd quella lettera):
"I Tascio li avete creati voi". L'Italia era al tempo della strage di Ustica
una Repubblica a sovranità limitata nell'ambito dei rapporti governi Usa-Italia
e lo è rimasta fino a poco fa. Giovanardi è l'ultimo dei servi dell'impero americano al fallimento e il padrone
si apprende che all'epoca si dava da fare per tutelarne il prezioso lavoro nell'interesse americano,
non delle vittime di Ustica ovviamente. laura picchi


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DEPT PLEASE PASS TO A/RPS/IPS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/23/2013
TAGS: PREL PINR IT FAA AVIATION
SUBJECT: USTICA CRASH BACK IN THE HEADLINES


CLASSIFIED BY: POLITICAL MINISTER COUNSELOR THOMAS
COUNTRYMAN FOR REASONS 1.5(B)(D)

¶1. (U)  THIS IS AN ACTION REQUEST.  EMBASSY REQUESTS THAT 
DOCUMENTS DESCRIBED BELOW, WHICH WERE RELEASED PURSUANT TO 
    THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, BE FORWARDED TO POST AS 
RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE.  SEE PARA 4. 


¶2. (U) MOST MAJOR ITALIAN SUNDAY NEWSPAPERS CARRIED A SPECIAL
REPORT AIRED ON STATE BROADCASTER RAI-TG3 ON JUNE 21 ALLEGING
"NEW REVELATIONS" ABOUT THE 1980 CRASH OF AN ITALIAN AIRLINER
OFF THE ISLAND OF USTICA IN WHICH 81 PEOPLE DIED. UNDER THE
HEADLINE, "USTICA: U.S. SPIED ON AMATO," LA REPUBBLICA'S
FRONT PAGE ARTICLE CHARGED THE U.S. WITH INTERCEPTING A 1992
PHONE CALL BETWEEN THEN PRIME MINISTER GIULIANO AMATO AND
DEFENSE MINISTER SALVO ANDO' (BOTH SOCIALIST PARTY MEMBERS)
IN CONNECTION WITH USG EFFORTS TO MONITOR COURT AND
PARLIAMENTARY PROBES INTO THE USTICA ACCIDENT. THE ARTICLES
INDICATE THAT THE U.S. AMBASSADOR USED THE INTERCEPTED
INFORMATION TO PRESSURE BETTINO CRAXI, LEADER OF THE
SOCIALIST PARTY, OVER THE GOI'S DECISION TO BE A PLAINTIFF IN
A TRIAL RELATED TO THE CRASH.

¶3. (U) THE LA REPUBBLICA ARTICLE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE MORE
EXTENSIVE PIECES, INCLUDES AN INTERVIEW WITH FORMER PM AMATO.
HE DESCRIBED THE 1992 PHONE CALL AS ONLY A DISCUSSION OF THE
FACTS, AND SAID THE ITALIAN GOVERNMENT HAD NOTHING TO HIDE.
OTHER MAJOR ITALIAN PAPERS ALSO CARRIED THE STORY PROMINENTLY
ON JUNE 22. THE REPORT OF THE ALLEGED 1992 WIRE-TAP WAS
BASED ON DOCUMENTS RELEASED UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
ACT AT THE REQUEST OF USTICA VICTIMS' RELATIVES.

¶4. (C) COMMENT AND ACTION REQUEST.  THE USTICA CRASH AND 
CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT A POSSIBLE USG ROLE ARE PERENNIAL 
FAVORITES OF THE ITALIAN MEDIA.   WHILE THE 1992 WIRE-TAP 
STORY HAS ONLY LASTED THROUGH ONE NEWS CYCLE, WE CAN 
    CONFIDENTLY PREDICT USTICA WILL BE BACK IN THE NEWS IN SOME 
FORM IN THE FUTURE.  IN THE INTEREST OF BEING PREPARED TO 
RESPOND TO AND LIMIT THE SPIN CONSPIRACY-THEORISTS ATTACH TO 
NEW "REVELATIONS" ABOUT THE ACCIDENT, POST REQUESTS A COPY OF 
THE DECLASSIFIED 1992 TELEPHONE INTERCEPT.  GRAPHICS FOR THE 
LA REPUBBLICA ARTICLE SHOWED A BLURRED AND INDECIPHERABLE 
PHOTO OF WHAT LOOKS LIKE A STATE DEPARTMENT CABLE.  ANOTHER 
ARTICLE REFERS TO A RESTRICTED CABLE SENT IN 1992 FROM 
AMBASSADOR SECCHIA TO THEN DEFENSE SECRETARY CHENEY.  IT IS 
NOT CLEAR WHERE THE MESSAGE ORIGINATED OR WHETHER IT WAS SENT 
NODIS OR EXDIS.  END COMMENT AND ACTION REQUEST. 
SEMBLER 


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E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/11/2013
TAGS: PREL PINR IT FAA AVIATION
SUBJECT: USTICA CRASH BACK IN THE HEADLINES: REQUEST FOR
INFO

REF: ROME 2887

CLASSIFIED BY: POLITICAL MINISTER COUNSELOR THOMAS COUNTRYMAN FOR REASO 
    NS 1.5 (B) AND (D) 


¶1. (U) THIS IS AN ACTION REQUEST. PLEASE SEE PARA 5.

¶2. (C) THIRTY ITALIAN PARLIAMENTARIANS HAVE SIGNED A
RESOLUTION CALLING ON THE GOI TO OFFICIALLY PROTEST TO THE
STATE DEPARTMENT FOR "SPYING" ON THE ITALIAN PM AND MOD IN
1992, ACCORDING TO CARLO GIOVANARDI, MINISTER FOR RELATIONS
WITH PARLIAMENT. GIOVANARDI TOLD POL MC AT A JULY 10
MEETING THAT THE RESOLUTION LAMENTS THE USG'S "LACK OF
CLARITY AND COOPERATION" WITH THE GOI ON THE 1980 USTICA
CRASH CASE. GIOVANARDI SHOWED POL MC THE JUNE 21 TG3 TV
REPORTAGE ALLEGING THAT THE USG INTERCEPTED IN 1992 A PHONE
CALL BETWEEN PM GIULIANO AMATO AND MOD SALVO ANDRO WHILE THE
GOI WAS DECIDING WHETHER TO BECOME A PLAINTIFF IN THE USTICA
CASE (REFTEL). THE TV REPORT CLAIMED THAT THE INTERCEPTED
PHONE CALL WAS MENTIONED IN DOCUMENTS THE STATE DEPARTMENT
RELEASED TO USTICA VICTIMS' RELATIVES PURSUANT TO A FREEDOM
OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST.

¶3. (C) GIOVANARDI EXPLAINED THAT, A YEAR AGO, HE SPOKE IN
PARLIAMENT TRYING TO PUT THE 20- YEAR OLD USTICA CRASH CASE
TO REST. HE FAVORED THE EXPLANATION THAT THE CRASH WAS
CAUSED BY AN INTERNAL EXPLOSION AND NOT BY A US MISSILE.
THESE NEW ALLEGATIONS UNDERMINE HIS CREDIBILITY, HE SAID. HE
MUST SPEAK AGAIN ON THE CASE IN A PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE
HEARING ON THE OPPOSITION MOTION BEFORE THE END OF JULY. HE
ASKED POL MC FOR THE DOCUMENTS ALLEGEDLY RELEASED BY THE
DEPARTMENT TO THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES IN ORDER TO BE PREPARED
TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AGAIN IN PARLIAMENT, AND ASKED THAT WE
COORDINATE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MATTER.

¶4. (C) COMMENT : GIOVANARDI AND POL MC AGREED THAT THE TG3
REPORTAGE PRESENTED NO NEW EVIDENCE ON THE USTICA CRASH
ITSELF, AND INCLUDES NOTHING THAT WOULD DISPROVE WHAT
GIOVANARDI BRIEFED TO THE PARLIAMENT OR WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS
SAID: THAT THERE WAS NO USG INVOLVEMENT IN THE CRASH. THE
PROGRAM DID RAISE NEW ALLEGATIONS OF "ESPIONAGE" BY THE USG,
HOWEVER, AND IMPLIED THAT THE USG MUST HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
THE USTICA CRASH AND "COVER-UP" OR IT WOULD NOT HAVE "SPIED"
ON SENIOR GOI CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE CASE. POST NEEDS
TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THE PARLIAMENTARY
INQUIRY AND THE TV PROGRAM IN ORDER TO BE FULLY INFORMED (OR
AT LEAST AS INFORMED AS THOSE MAKING THE ACCUSATIONS).
EMBASSY DOES NOT INTEND TO COMMENT PUBLICLY ON THE NEW
ALLEGATION, BUT IF THE ALLEGATION IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE
DOCUMENTS THEMSELVES, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP
GIOVANARDI FEND OFF THE OPPOSITION'S MOTION. GIVEN THE
VOLATILE CONSPIRACY THEORY TENDANCIES THAT STUBBORNLY
SURROUND THE USTICA INCIDENT, WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO
ASK THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES FOR COPIES OF INTERNAL STATE
DEPARTMENT DOCUMENTS.

¶5. (C) ACTION REQUEST: WE REALIZE THE MAGNITUDE OF THE TASK 
OF LOCATING PARTICULAR DOCUMENTS FROM THOUSANDS RELEASED 
UNDER FOIA, AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT A/RPS/IPS 
HAS ALREADY PUT IN TO REFTEL REQUEST.  THE ONLY ADDITIONAL 
INFORMATION WE CAN PROVIDE, HAVING NOW VIEWED THE VIDEOTAPE, 
IS THAT THE DOCUMENT CITED HAS THE APPEARANCE OF A STATE 
CABLE (POSSIBLY EXDIS OR NODIS), RATHER THAN AN INTELLIGENCE 
PRODUCT.  THE ONLY IDENTIFYING DATA WE COULD SEE ON THE ONE 
PAGE SHOWN WAS WHAT APPEARED TO BE A CABLE NUMBER "0467" AND 
    A DTG "161624Z" (MONTH INDISTINCT).  WE AGAIN REQUEST THE 
DEPARTMENT'S MOST RAPID ASSISTANCE WITH IDENTIFYING THE 
DOCUMENTS RELEASED PURSUANT TO THE FOIA REQUEST.  END COMMENT 
AND ACTION REQUEST. 
SEMBLER 


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