Ammazzave o !! e io che pensava de anna ogni tanto of-topi (fanculo gli
inglesismi)......
Poro, purtroppo nun c'ho le basi pe confuta o meno tutto quello che dici!
Pian piano me leggerò con calma tutti l'articoli che hai citato pe vede
che roba è, e come è venuta fuori....
Ad ogni modo, da una letta sommaria non ho capito se si parlava di tabacco
e basta o di tabacco più merda varia (filtro, carta...ecc, ecc.)...Vorrà
dire che dovrò approfondire la lettura (mo er tempo me manca)....
Comunque ar Gianni je faccio nota che er Poro ha messo in luce una cosa
FONDAMENTALE (!!) e cioè quella che in statistica viene indicata come
"relazione spuria" ben differente dalla relazione causale: (testualmente)
"Chi beve è più intelligente..." (e magari, dico io!) Molte relazioni
bivariate sono ingannevoli: statisticamente sono inaccettabili ma in
termini di relazione causale questa covariazione può essere dovuta
all'azione di una terza variabile...(ecc., ecc.) .
Per cui meditate e continuate a meditare !!! AUGH !
PS.(pe Marco Simone): so appena arrivato a lavoro e mo chiudo la posta
fino a pranzo ;-))))
'Ntrea (er deovalizzatore de rote umano, nonchè epidemiologo, nonchè
scassacazzi!)
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 01:05:22 +0200 (CEST), <erporo@???> wrote:
> Altri Scienziati sono molto polemici con le teorie ufficiali !
>
> Dr. Heinz Ludwig Sänger, Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and
> Virology, Max-Planck-Institutes
>
> for Biochemy, München. Robert Koch Award 1978: "Up to today there is
> actually no single
>
> scientifically really convincing evidence for the existence of HIV. Not
> even once such a retrovirus
>
> has been isolated and purified by the methods of classical virology."
> (Letter to Süddeutsche Zeitung
>
> 2000)
>
> Dr. Kary Mullis, Biochemist, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry: "If there is
> evidence that HIV causes
>
> AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or
> collectively demonstrate that
>
> fact, at least with a high probability.
> There is no such document." (Sunday Times (London) 28 nov. 1993)
>
> Dr. Serge Lang, Professor of Mathematics, Yale University: "I do not
> regard the causal relationship
>
> between HIV and any disease as settled. I have seen considerable evidence
> that highly improper
>
> statistics concerning HIV and AIDS have been passed off as science, and
> that top members of the
>
> scientific establishment have carelessly, if not irresponsible, joined
> the
> media in spreading
>
> misinformation about the nature of AIDS." (Yale Scientific, Fall 1994)
>
> Dr. Gordon Stewart, Emeritus Professor of Public Health, University of
> Glasgow: "AIDS is a
>
> behavioural disease. It is multifactorial, brought on by several
> simultaneous strains on the immune
>
> system - drugs, pharmaceutical and recreational, sexually transmitted
> diseases, multiple viral
>
> infections." (Spin June 1992)
>
> Dr. Harry Rubin, Professor of Molecular and Cell Biology, University of
> California at Berkeley: "It
>
> is not proven that AIDS is caused by HIV infection, nor is it proven that
> it plays no role whatever
>
> in the syndrome."
> (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
>
> Dr. Richard Strohman, Emeritus Professor of Cell Biology at the
> University
> of California at
>
> Berkeley:
> "In the old days it was required that a scientist address the
> possibilities of proving his
>
> hypothesis wrong as well as right. Now there's none of that in standard
> HIV-AIDS program with all
>
> its billions of dollars." (Penthouse April 1994)
>
> Dr. Harvey Bialy, Molecular Biologist, former editor of Bio/Technology
> and
> Nature Biotechnology:
> "HIV is an ordinary retrovirus. There is nothing about this virus that is
> unique. Everything that is
>
> discovered about HIV has an analogue in other retroviruses that don't
> cause AIDS. HIV only contains
>
> a very small piece of genetic information.
> There's no way it can do all these elaborate things they say it does."
> (Spin June 1992)
>
> Dr. Roger Cunningham, Immunologist, Microbiologist and Director of the
> Centre for Immunology at the
>
> State University of New York at Buffalo: "Unfortunately, an AIDS
> 'establishment' seems to have
>
> formed that intends to discourage challenges to the dogma on one side and
> often insists on following
>
> discredited ideas on the other." (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
>
> Dr. Alfred Hässig, (1921-1999), former Professor of Immunology at the
> University of Bern, and former
>
> director Swiss Red Cross blood banks: "The sentence of death
> accompanying
> the medical diagnosis of
>
> AIDS should be abolished."
> (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
>
> Dr. Charles Thomas, former Professor of Biochemistry, Harvard and John
> Hopkins Universities:
> "The HIV-causes-AIDS dogma represents the grandest and perhaps the most
> morally destructive fraud
>
> that has ever been perpetrated on young men and women of the Western
> world." (Sunday Times (London)
>
> 3 April 1994)
>
> Dr. Bernard Forscher, former editor of the U.S. Proceeding of the
> National
> Academy of Sciences:
> "The HIV hypothesis ranks with the 'bad air' theory for malaria and the
> 'bacterial infection' theory
>
> of beriberi and pellagra [caused by nutritional deficiencies]. It is a
> hoax that became a scam."
>
> (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
>
> Dr. Joseph Sonnabend, New York Physician, founder of the American
> Foundation for AIDS Research
>
> (AmFAR): "The marketing of HIV, through press releases and statements, as
> a killer virus causing
>
> AIDS without the need for any other factors, has so distorted research
> and
> treatment that it may
>
> have caused thousands of people to suffer and die."
> (Sunday times (London) 17 May 1992)
>
> Dr. Andrew Herxheimer, Emeritus Professor of Pharmacology, UK Cochrane
> Centre, Oxford:
> "I think zidovudine [AZT] was never really evaluated properly and that
> its
> efficacy has never been
>
> proved, but it's toxicity certainly is important. And I think it has
> killed a lot of people.
>
> Especially at the high doses. I personally think it not worth using alone
> or in combination at all."
>
> (Continuum Oct. 2000)
>
> Dr. Etienne de Harven, Emeritus Professor of Pathology, at the University
> of Toronto:
> "Dominated by the media, by special pressure groups and by the interests
> of several pharmaceutical
>
> companies, the AIDS establishment efforts to control the disease lost
> contact with open-minded,
>
> peer-reviewed medical science since the unproven HIV/AIDS hypothesis
> received 100% of the research
>
> funds while all other hypotheses were ignored."
> (Reappraising AIDS Nov./Dec. 1998)
>
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>
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>
> Ho sempre scelto da che parte stare
> e io sto dall'altra parte.
> NON ACCETTO LA GUERRA
> esco da questa lista
> non mi riconosco in questa CM
> Per quelli che mi vogliono incontrare
> io sono per strada con la bici
>
> ciao
> er "poro"
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